Preliminary interdiction poll

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Interdiction of a player is:

Poll ended at Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:03 pm

an act of PvE
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an act of PvP
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Total votes: 45

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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby Flip » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:57 am

Philip Coutts wrote: Personally I'd leave warzones as they are, i.e. pick a side and anyone on the opposite side is fair game.


Yeah, I agree with that. You only go in a conflict zone and choose a side if you want to. It's not forced on you.
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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby dognosh » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:08 am

Mobius wrote:I think that as this poll is based on a recent discussion regarding interaction with another player, we should make the groups policy to have no form of PvP and make it pure PvE,
that would mean no pvp combat zones or missions or any interacting with another players ship in any negative way.


I didn't know one innocent flyby(mistaken for interdiction) could cause so much trouble :D

I wholeheartedly agree that the following should NOT be allowed in MOBIUS against another member :
1. Aggression, using weapons(only when in MOBIUS GROUP play)
2. Aggravation, like knocking in to another ship on purpose(only when in MOBIUS GROUP play)
3. Interdiction(only when in MOBIUS GROUP play)
4. Scamming, even if this becomes possible in-game in the future(only when in MOBIUS GROUP play)

I know our man here is a fair man and listens to both sides, so we already have the right person to hear our grievances :mrgreen:

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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby christoff » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:53 am

I voted NO as well. It's bad enough having NPC's doing it, so annoying when you are running out of time on a mission.

Happened to me last night. A Viper against my little Hauler, but the strange thing was they didn't take my cargo, just shot out my drive/thruster and left me floating in space for ever more :? I had to self destruct.

Sorry, OT for the moment there, but I'm still having nightmares about the floating in space for ever bit!

One thing, getting back to interdictions, how do you know which ship you are interdicting? I don't own the module, so just wondered if you get to see who you are thinking of interdicting?
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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby Avago-Earo » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:23 am

My only on line gaming experience prior to Elite Dangerous is GT 5 on the PS3 so cut me some slack if I say something that doesn't really work.

We're all in this group because it's PvE, that's a given, right? So that's the foundation and we may have different reasons for joining. Mine is just because I don't like shooting other players. I play the game like the original in '84, and when the curtains are closed and the lights are off I'm in a Space Ship. It's not pixels and processors no matter how much I know it is. So whenever I see a Commander name I see a Space Craft with a Person inside. I back up the bad feeling of shooting another player (when I tried Open Play) with the fiction of the game i.e. The Elite Pilots Federation (I think) that we are all part of. NPC's are not members so they're fair game. Am I right? Correct me I didn't get to play First Encounters and didn't come back to gaming until recently.

The reason for saying this is so my next statement doesn't get misinterpreted (hopefully) when I say I don't mind if someone attacks me as the result of a mission because it wouldn't feel personal then -just a Commander doing his job. And the reason I write at such length (often) is because after being in Punk bands most of my life (other styles are available and equally excellent) I have often been misunderstood from a single line being taken out of context and having to explain it 'out of song' so sorry -it's a habit now.

If those assassination missions aren't just given to one commander to be the assassin (this is the bit I'm unsure about in the final game) then there would be no need for PvP for that mission to be concluded.

That all said PvE is the root of this group and I for one will go with the majority. Another group can always be formed alongside this where lines can be a little more blurred and maybe let it evolve and see what happens.

Mobius is a great group and so is this forum. Let's try and keep it simple (unlike my post) eh?

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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby Rune » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:34 am

I see player interdictions against other players as an act of aggression as I can't see any use for it in a passive way. Want to stop the person so you can chat? Well use the in game comms or TS.

Refusal to submit followed by failure to escape an interdiction results in ship damage. Being interdicted when you're cutting it fine on a mission could cause you to fail the mission and incur a bounty. I don't see any way it can be used in a friendly context so for these reasons I voted no.

As for the combat zones I'd say leave as if the people who take part in them like it as it is.

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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby Avago-Earo » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:50 am

Does anyone think there should be a separate poll on Combat Zones? Maybe with options for: YES. NO. YES, but happy if it changes after a trial period. NO but happy if this changes after a trial period.

If agreed can someone start a poll or similar as I don't know how to.
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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby Wolf » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:16 pm

Avago-Earo wrote:Does anyone think there should be a separate poll on Combat Zones? Maybe with options for: YES. NO. YES, but happy if it changes after a trial period. NO but happy if this changes after a trial period.

If agreed can someone start a poll or similar as I don't know how to.

I would expect we will make more polls in the weeks to come to hear the opinion of all members about some aspects of in-group play.
Poll-creation is restricted to Admins and Mods though, as free poll-creation usually leads to way too many polls which are not necessarily worded without bias and so are not really useful. ;)
As you know, we do listen to all suggestions, though.

So I do see a poll about combat zones coming up indeed. As I have not heard of any issues inside combat zones yet, I think we can afford to wait and focus on one poll right now.
Anybody think we need it right away, or can it wait?
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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby christoff » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:52 pm

Lets have a poll on it to decide! :P
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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby Artie » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:10 pm

Voted "PvP" for interdictions, but I think current group rule about war zones is good as is. I can imagine, when no PvP in war zones allowed, that there may happen situation with lot of players on both sides and very few NPCs to shoot. As some kind of stalemate, it won't be fun. I think everyone here is "mature" enough to not abuse this rule for team-kills, for example.

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Re: Preliminary interdiction poll

Postby Mr_Average » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:41 pm

In my house, the bedroom is a Combat zone every night.

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