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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Cmdr Kharma » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:12 pm

In game......

Forcing myself to play......

1st Jump.....Interdicted.....Deadly sthg or other....Got hit with some mega shit.....Code 39

2nd Jump.....Interdicted.....Master Diamondback scout......He lost......328,000Ls to collect bounty.....

3rd Jump......Landed at engineers handed in exploration data....Upped me 1%......

Gave up......

Gonna watch a film.....
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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Trinity Star » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:15 pm

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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Darr Valen » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:31 pm

13,145.85LY left to Jaques.

Molasses, cold freakin' molasses speed progress.. blergh.. :|
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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Cometborne » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:15 pm

Darr Valen wrote:Instead of scanning each star and scooping at each stop, I do 9 jumps, scoop, and scan only that one star I scoop. I geuinely loathe doing that, but the realities are that I am taking module damage. It's small, and I have an AFM, but I do not have an SRV to land, prospect, and make more AFM module ammo.


You might want to consider switching from "sit and scoop" to "scooping spiral", see the explanation videos on the Frontier Forum, Explorer Guides section. I have been using spiral scooping through my whole first trip (Bubble -> Jaques -> Sag A* -> Great Annihilator -> Bubble), and the only times where I took heat damage was when I fucked up, or played with black holes.

On this second trip (with a cutter rather than an AspX), I do not have an AFM. I have fucked up twice so far, and some modules have about 3% damage.

Darr Valen wrote:I feel slow in this endeavour, even though I have no frame of reference. Before this, the furthest I had gone was like 500Ly from start. I took CB's recommended route to the Witch Head Neb, and that was 1kLy from start.. so I'm not really an 'explorer'. I feel more like a long-haul trader now, which is really what I always was.


The problem with the frame of reference is what you are doing. My run out to Jaques was made during two days with about 18.5 hours of total stick time for 934 jumps. Honk, scoop, jump, honk, scoop, jump, until I got there. Due to my incompetent plotting, I probably flew more like 25 kylies rather than the 22 kylies of direct distance.

Doing the 11 kylie from Jaques to Sag A* with an increasing scan depth took my 11 days.

The 4 kylie from Sag A* to the Great Annihilator in "scan everything that does not run" mode took another 4 days.

Another 5 days of "just scan the central star" took me back home.

I did not feel "slow" during any of these stages, even though the speeds measured in LY/day were between 15 kylie/day and less than 0.5 kylie/day for some stages.

For reference, the Jaunt to Jaques convoys are scheduled for 1.5 kylie/day.
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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Darr Valen » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:58 pm

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Darr Valen wrote:Instead of scanning each star and scooping at each stop, I do 9 jumps, scoop, and scan only that one star I scoop. I geuinely loathe doing that, but the realities are that I am taking module damage. It's small, and I have an AFM, but I do not have an SRV to land, prospect, and make more AFM module ammo.


You might want to consider switching from "sit and scoop" to "scooping spiral", see the explanation videos on the Frontier Forum, Explorer Guides section. I have been using spiral scooping through my whole first trip (Bubble -> Jaques -> Sag A* -> Great Annihilator -> Bubble), and the only times where I took heat damage was when I fucked up, or played with black holes.

On this second trip (with a cutter rather than an AspX), I do not have an AFM. I have fucked up twice so far, and some modules have about 3% damage.

Darr Valen wrote:I feel slow in this endeavour, even though I have no frame of reference. Before this, the furthest I had gone was like 500Ly from start. I took CB's recommended route to the Witch Head Neb, and that was 1kLy from start.. so I'm not really an 'explorer'. I feel more like a long-haul trader now, which is really what I always was.


The problem with the frame of reference is what you are doing. My run out to Jaques was made during two days with about 18.5 hours of total stick time for 934 jumps. Honk, scoop, jump, honk, scoop, jump, until I got there. Due to my incompetent plotting, I probably flew more like 25 kylies rather than the 22 kylies of direct distance.

Doing the 11 kylie from Jaques to Sag A* with an increasing scan depth took my 11 days.

The 4 kylie from Sag A* to the Great Annihilator in "scan everything that does not run" mode took another 4 days.

Another 5 days of "just scan the central star" took me back home.

I did not feel "slow" during any of these stages, even though the speeds measured in LY/day were between 15 kylie/day and less than 0.5 kylie/day for some stages.

For reference, the Jaunt to Jaques convoys are scheduled for 1.5 kylie/day.


Firstly, is Kylie meant to be Kilo-lightyears? If so, wouldn't that be Ki-ly? ;)

Secondly, the other two methods, which might work better on another ship, do work. BUt a cutter with a 6B scoop isn't really ideal to try and do fast pass scoops. It would probably be pretty nice if I had left the 8A or 7A instead. A problem I've planned to solve on my next trip out. I do "honk and go" as is, to get a bit of fuel while turning or setting up. At more that halfway done now, I really am, not up for taking new risks. As a trader, I don't scoop normally. I have, many times.. but trade ships aren't the most ideal things to turn in.. especially in super-luminal speeds. I wish I was in my Courier right now. I could scoop a star and fly away in seconds.

Thirdly, 12,815.20LY left. Or 12.8152 Kily.
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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Cometborne » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:34 pm

Darr Valen wrote:Firstly, is Kylie meant to be Kilo-lightyears? If so, wouldn't that be Ki-ly? ;)


Yes, it is the slang term for Kilo-Lightyears. No idea where it started, but I have been hearing it so often now that it comes naturally.

Darr Valen wrote:Secondly, the other two methods, which might work better on another ship, do work. BUt a cutter with a 6B scoop isn't really ideal to try and do fast pass scoops.


I am also flying an imperial cutter, 6A fuel scoop, 5A power plant, and spiral scooping works just fine. I have orbital lines and mouse widget enabled, and once I leave hyperspace, I go to 75% throttle, put the mouse widget outside the crash circle, and then spiral around the sun until the tank is full. After that, ass to the star, full throttle, wait for heat to drop below 64%, charge frameshift, align for jump.
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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Darr Valen » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:50 pm

Cometborne wrote:
Darr Valen wrote:Firstly, is Kylie meant to be Kilo-lightyears? If so, wouldn't that be Ki-ly? ;)


Yes, it is the slang term for Kilo-Lightyears. No idea where it started, but I have been hearing it so often now that it comes naturally.

Darr Valen wrote:Secondly, the other two methods, which might work better on another ship, do work. BUt a cutter with a 6B scoop isn't really ideal to try and do fast pass scoops.


I am also flying an imperial cutter, 6A fuel scoop, 5A power plant, and spiral scooping works just fine. I have orbital lines and mouse widget enabled, and once I leave hyperspace, I go to 75% throttle, put the mouse widget outside the crash circle, and then spiral around the sun until the tank is full. After that, ass to the star, full throttle, wait for heat to drop below 64%, charge frameshift, align for jump.


Mouse Widget, is that using M+KB?

I've been hesitant to continue trying to use alternate scooping methods since I've had a bug with auto-dropping a few times when I should have been fine. Like 65% heat and ass-first to the star.. then BAM, kicked into local. #EliteScoopingProblems

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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Cometborne » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:53 pm

Darr Valen wrote:Mouse Widget, is that using M+KB?


The mouse widget is intended for people flying using mouse and keyboard, but can be activated even if you do not use the mouse to fly. I am using a joystick and keyboard to fly, the mouse is only used for the galactic map.

The benefit of mouse widget is that it gives you a nice marker right in the middle of the screen that you can use to aim your ship. I find it invaluable by now.

Darr Valen wrote:I've been hesitant to continue trying to use alternate scooping methods since I've had a bug with auto-dropping a few times when I should have been fine. Like 65% heat and ass-first to the star.. then BAM, kicked into local. #EliteScoopingProblems


This is how it is working for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMLlJ6_CKHo

The mouse widget is the yellow square right in the middle.

For reference, this is my current build

FSD has level 5 range extension, actual fully laden range (640 tons of cargo) is 23.04 LY, no cargo but full tank range is 33.42 LY. Got hit with a 32 ton weight increase, which sucks.

Everything else is unmodified.

Darr Valen wrote:12.66168 KiLY 'til Jaques.


I just called it a day. 12.3 kylie left until Jaques, 224 jumps done in 4:37:07 hours, or about 75 seconds per system. Definitely not going to apply for membership in the Buckyball Racing Club anytime soon.
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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Schmobius » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:06 pm

"Kylies" comes more from the abbreviation I think. If you say "I went several klys", it sort of flows from there.
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Re: What are you doing (ingame) now?

Postby Darr Valen » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:36 pm

Schmobius wrote:"Kylies" comes more from the abbreviation I think. If you say "I went several klys", it sort of flows from there.


I get the where, it just sounds off since it's not kie-low, but kee-low.

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Darr Valen wrote:Mouse Widget, is that using M+KB?


The mouse widget is intended for people flying using mouse and keyboard, but can be activated even if you do not use the mouse to fly. I am using a joystick and keyboard to fly, the mouse is only used for the galactic map.

The benefit of mouse widget is that it gives you a nice marker right in the middle of the screen that you can use to aim your ship. I find it invaluable by now.

Darr Valen wrote:I've been hesitant to continue trying to use alternate scooping methods since I've had a bug with auto-dropping a few times when I should have been fine. Like 65% heat and ass-first to the star.. then BAM, kicked into local. #EliteScoopingProblems


This is how it is working for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMLlJ6_CKHo

The mouse widget is the yellow square right in the middle.

For reference, this is my current build

FSD has level 5 range extension, actual fully laden range (640 tons of cargo) is 23.04 LY, no cargo but full tank range is 33.42 LY. Got hit with a 32 ton weight increase, which sucks.

Everything else is unmodified.

Darr Valen wrote:12.66168 KiLY 'til Jaques.


I just called it a day. 12.3 kylie left until Jaques, 224 jumps done in 4:37:07 hours, or about 75 seconds per system. Definitely not going to apply for membership in the Buckyball Racing Club anytime soon.


Sorry to say, video is private.
I added the mouse widget. That block in the middle of the screen will take some getting used to.
I think my last system was 1 per 75 minutes. Been afk a bit.

I'm not running the same loadout, and I'd say yours is a bit better for this. Coming back from a long game break to then getting into the longest exploration missions I've ever done is certainly a learning process. I'd love to get that FSD range. Going to work on Engineers after I get back.

12.56699KiLY left to go.

Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't I get an invite to a new engineer kafter going 5KiLY from start? I'm at almost 10KiLY from start now, and I've yet to get any incoming message. I was assuming I have to dock somewhere first potentially.
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