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The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:53 am
by Cait Kryos
Oh, for...
How does *this* work? I'm trundling into Treschov Port with a load of fish. My life is dazzling.
A guy called Biff decides to interdict me, and - since I'm about half a metre from my safe-drop to the station anyway, I let him.
"All I want is all you have," he quips. So that's pretty clear: he's not after a quiet chat and a cup of tea.
Damn him, he wants my fish. Well, I hate thieves and bullies, so he's not getting my fish. I deploy hardpoints and begin manoeuvring for a better position.
He starts shooting. I'm dodging beams left and right, or - more accurately - he's missing. And now I have him in my sights. I fire, and strike his ship...
And most of you have already guessed what happened, right?
"Two hundred credit bounty - assault on Biff!" sneers the Federation.
I'm now as Wanted as he is.
I mull it over while he rakes my hull. He's got his eye in now, and my shields are wobbling. If, in the unfailingly rational eyes of Federal justice, I'm considered the aggressor here, I don't think I can afford to win. I have only a handful of credits to my name.
Evading him as best I can, I charge my frameshift and, with my hull knocked down to sixty percent, I manage to get clear, off to pay my richly deserved fine plus repair costs. Well, Feds, you sure taught ME a lesson!
So, moral of this tale: if engaged by a pirate, do not fire until they've already hit you.
Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:27 am
by Jockgit64
This is a real bugbear of mine. As far as I am concerned an Interdiction by anyone other than the Space Cops is an attack and should be treated as one.
This part of the game mechanic needs fixing.
Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:46 am
by Cait Kryos
Hmm. I know we're quite late on in gamma now.. But is there a ticketing system for this like this that aren't bugs but seem... wrong?
Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:08 am
by DustKart
Jockgit64 wrote:This is a real bugbear of mine. As far as I am concerned an Interdiction by anyone other than the Space Cops is an attack and should be treated as one.
This part of the game mechanic needs fixing.
Damn straight!
Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:20 am
by MarrV
DustKart wrote:Jockgit64 wrote:This is a real bugbear of mine. As far as I am concerned an Interdiction by anyone other than the Space Cops is an attack and should be treated as one.
This part of the game mechanic needs fixing.
Damn straight!
Any information from frontier on this? Basically it will come down to whether or not an interdiction is an attack or a pre-amble. Obviously we feel it to be an attack as the is not legitimate reason to pull another craft from SC. The obvious counter argument is technically they have not done anything wrong at that point, just been disruptive.
I understand why they have it set up as they need to hit you first, but it is annoying.
Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:01 pm
by Flip
I filed a ticket about that on Nov the 21st, but its status still reads "New" (like about 15 others of my bloody tickets).

Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:22 pm
by Somerled
I've tried everything with this.
Let them shoot me first, scan them until it shows they are wanted, etc etc.
There is no pattern as to why sometimes you get a bounty on yourself or not. If its a mechanic that Frontier think is working as intended then they are not telling us what the trigger is.
I almost lost my Cobra to a Anaconda interdicting me - didn't realise it was an Anaconda until it had my hull at 25%
Another bugbear of mine is getting interdicted when i'm almost at the station and it drops me out 30ls further back. Had this happen a few times twice in a row, almost at the station - nope 35ls back, almost at the station - nope 30ls back! grrrrr

Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:38 pm
by Neillm
Flip wrote:I filed a ticket about that on Nov the 21st, but its status still reads "New" (like about 15 others of my bloody tickets).

Most of my tickets were closed with the line message:
Hello Commander,
In preparation for the release of Beta 3.9 we will now be automatically resolving all outstanding tickets from Beta 3.0 and its subsequent updates.
Beta 3.9 will feature a wide range of bug fixes, optimisations and includes numerous changes across most areas of the game. As such, we’ll need fresh information from Beta 3.9 to investigate any reported issues.
If you find that you’re still experiencing an issue that was present in Beta 3.0, please create a new ticket for it and we will investigate further.
In other words..."We haven't found it but something else may or may not have fixed it"
I wish we could do the same for our software.

Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:48 pm
by Combiseries
I feel that the hardware for interdicting should not be sold to players until they have reached a certain level of competence with either a police force, military or bounty hunting faction. I mean why sell the hardware when anyone can go around pulling people out of SC whenever they like.
You could also have some sort of black market for hardware like this, and you only have access to it when you reach a certain level with a pirate faction at that base.
I agree, its annoying.
Re: The Law is an Equus Africanus Asinus
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:19 pm
by Flip
Neillm wrote:Most of my tickets were closed with the line message:
Hello Commander,
In preparation for the release of Beta 3.9 we will now be automatically resolving all outstanding tickets from Beta 3.0 and its subsequent updates.
<snip>
In other words..."We haven't found it but something else may or may not have fixed it"
Yeah, I've got a bunch of these too, but IMO it's almost OK, because there were so many changes in b3.9 that it was much easier to go this way. What pisses me off is the number of tickets I filed in Gamma that apparently have never been seen. Makes you wonder if there's any point in spending the time to do it at all.
I wish we could do the same for our software.

Tell me about it!
