VR or 4K?

[TorTorden]

The interesting bit will happen when games start taking advantage of the multipoint simultaneous rendering (or sli)

VR games currently doesn't the difference between a 980ti (not the 980) is rather miniscule at this point. Considering software is in need of catching up the 1080 isn't a must have (well for me at least)

Hence why I'm feeling more and more comfortable waiting for the 2080-3080 or whatever they will call them.

[Roger Wilco Jr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pyuJa8VnME

They still call it a hacker development kit, but apparently it's aimed at consumers. Available in July. It sounds like different lens types have different pros and cons, but having the individual eye adjustments really make this look attractive to me. I'll do some more reading, but I think I'll probably order one of these as my introduction to VR. I mean, the tech is going to improve so this doesn't need to be perfect. I'm just waiting for the passive neural/optical interface.

[AJH]

A worthwhile read for anyone looking at OSVR. Valve's Alan Yates (who designed the lighthouse system for the Vive) comments on some of the issues that the OSVR lenses cause in terms of geometric distortion, as well as how they managed to adapt it to use the lighthouse tracking.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/ ... vr/d4g4o9s

TL;DR (or I don't like links) version: There are other geometric distortions associated with the lenses that may or may not be correctable without a camera tracking where your eyes are looking due to the nature of the light field generated. It's highly dependent on eye placement and directionality. May still end up being the best bet for how complex eye problems interact with the optics of other headsets, but something to be aware of. VR is looking like it will be a very "try before you buy" type of industry.

[thebs]

The new version of osvr HKDK2 (or whatever.)
http://www.osvr.org/hdk2.html
Is razer moving to consumers rather than just hackers.

Do you prefer to use an operating system like GNU/Linux?

I've been repeatedly tempted to jump into the OSVR, because I find my life is a lot easier with a lot less stress when running GNU/Linux platforms. With Windows, an update or some weird "reconfiguration" can give me a bad day ... sometimes take me out for a week if it's a real foul-up (and I haven't backed up in awhile, let alone restoring Windows backups aren't cake either). So I'm always wondering if it might not be easier to go with something like OSVR, putting in that initial learning, work and tweaking for my eyes, but being able to avoid -- with the OSVR, after I have it how I want it -- an update or some other non-sense breaking crap with the Rift or Vive.

Right now I don't have enough time for VR, so I haven't decided. I'm also off of Elite for awhile (haven't played for several weeks now, other than to sell the Python and configure a Vulture and ASP), as I'm down some 40M in insurance claims (and haven't made jack since).

[GlobusDiablo]

...Had some MSI parts in the past and caused me nothing my problems...

Yeah, brand loyalty is always based on most recent experience. My MSI motherboard and gfx (780) have worked flawlessly, and the reviews for their 1080 Gaming X are very good, so I'll stick with them for now.

[TorTorden]

After been heavy into pc parts and worked in tech support etc.

I have come to the conclusion that brand loyalty is utterly pointless.
Regardless of brand. Sometimes you will hit upon a faulty piece.

Just get something with the features and chipset you want with a decent warranty and you'll be OK.

As for osvr I see no reason to need to be versed in *nix to get one.
They claim the install process is down to three clicks and supports most steamvr titles if you get some vr controller interface in addition.

[smartroad]

I have come to the conclusion that brand loyalty is utterly pointless.
Regardless of brand. Sometimes you will hit upon a faulty piece.

To true. Ages ago I had a Gigabyte mobo which was shocking, yet my other half had a different model which was fine. I have one currently and it is great!

My view on MSI is a little tainted as I had a GFX and mobo by them (not at the same time) the mobo popped capacitors, as did it's replacement, and the GFX card kept having issues detecting monitors on a cold boot.

It was just bad luck on my part, but I am finding it hard to want to take the risk with them again lol

I am currently looking at either a Gigabyte or Asus card. Both have had good reviews. But as you say, read reviews and make a personal decision on what one to go for

[thebs]

I have come to the conclusion that brand loyalty is utterly pointless.
Regardless of brand. Sometimes you will hit upon a faulty piece.

That's why most of us point out the differences between an "ODM" and and "OEM." The former is actually who fabricates something. The latter is who puts their name on the box, services it, maybe has a few changes, assuming they know what they are doing. Having a good ODM as an OEM makes a huge difference, as ODMs have more engineering knowledge as they fabricate the units.

E.g., Asus' original M.2 slots on mainboards were totally faulty, because they were using cheap ODMs who just fabbed to spec, and didn't check it.

Asus has gone south ever since they told their ODM (Pegatron) to ASRock around '10, which explains why ASRock quality is now a lot better. ASRock, coincidentally, was who Asus spun off to be their low-cost brand, fabricated by ECS, FIC, Foxconn, etc... while Asus products were fabbed by it's own ODM (Pegatron). Asus then figured they'd survive on brand name alone, which hasn't been the case lately.

E.g., even Google won't use Asus as an OEM any more, because of all of the issues with the Nexus 7.

IJust get something with the features and chipset you want with a decent warranty and you'll be OK.

The OEM only really matters when it comes to warranty now.

Off Topic

I moved the CIFS/SMB (and Samba) discussion, and the off-topic/unrelated Linux commentary, to a new thread on NAS ...
- viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5442

[Walter]

. . . I just mean the "tweaking required" might not be what people want. I was making a correlation to the type of person it's for.

Writing as someone whose attempts to come to terms with Ubuntu are tantamount to torture (current score: Ubuntu 6, Walter 1), I can understand this - I would be on reinstall 6 (at least) before getting anywhere.

On the other hand, the OSVR HDK2 has a modular design so that the end user can update different parts of the headset from different suppliers which, in theory, should give a decent ROI in the long term.

In theory.

[thebs]

Off Topic

I moved the CIFS/SMB (and Samba) discussion, and the off-topic/unrelated Linux commentary, to a new thread on NAS ...
- viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5442