WTF is wrong with the graphics?

[TorTorden]

I have a sneaking suspicion the store page hasn't been updated for a year, and they have been tweaking and adding and tweaking and adding stuff since, and I suspect ED 1.4 is closer to required specs of Horizons than what was back then.

And I don't think FD even knows the specs for horizons yet...

PLEASE NOTE: THIS VERSION OF ELITE DANGEROUS: HORIZONS IS FOR PC USE ONLY
WINDOWS HARDWARE SPECIFICATION:
To Be Announced
Network Broadband Internet Connection
A Graphics Card That Fully Supports DirectX11 Or Greater - Shader Model 5.0 Or Greater
There are no regional restrictions, although the game may not be localised into your language.

Welcome to the sad sad state of what game deployment has become.

I doubt we will ever truly see a finished produck again, just a never ending stream of beta releases until it's abandoned :\

[Walter]

Welcome to the sad sad state of what game deployment has become.

I doubt we will ever truly see a finished produck again, just a never ending stream of beta releases until it's abandoned :\

I'm afraid you may be right, but I'm also afraid that the user base may have to bear some of the responsibility. I've been astonished at how tolerant players are of bugs - and even abusive towards those that complain of them - almost as if bugs were a force of nature rather than the product of a lack of control.
That isn't to deny that ED isn't a tremendous product, but its flaws don't inspire and must result in a lot of players quietly (and not so quietly) giving up altogether.

While it's invidious to make comparisons, one can't help wondering if two other products of a similar ilk will be less troubled because the writers have taken longer to come to the market.

Or will it be a series of action replays?

[UnmarkedBoxcar]

You must have been looking in the wrong place - not difficult given the amount of info that's out there - it's here: https://www.frontierstore.net/games/eli ... erous.html along with all those impossible videos.

But it might help others help you if you posted an outline of your current kit.

I just pulled the info off of the Elite: Dangerous website and the Steam Store Page...

*shrugs*

[Walter]

You must have been looking in the wrong place - not difficult given the amount of info that's out there - it's here: https://www.frontierstore.net/games/eli ... erous.html along with all those impossible videos.

But it might help others help you if you posted an outline of your current kit.

I just pulled the info off of the Elite: Dangerous website and the Steam Store Page...

*shrugs*

Sorry UB - wasn't trying to upstage you.

[UnmarkedBoxcar]

Sorry UB - wasn't trying to upstage you.

Ohh no worries! Not a problem at all, I'm glad we've got some more relevant information out there

I'm actually not terribly surprised that the information on the website/steam may not be up to date/up to par.

Websites these days are more for looking flashy and selling things than they are for easily accessible information

[smartroad]

I'm afraid you may be right, but I'm also afraid that the user base may have to bear some of the responsibility.

To be fair though modern games are significantly more complex than the games of my youth (circa 85-95). I could imagine the amount of code for the original Super Mario Bros. pales to insignificance to the amount of code needed to run a game like Elite. Also most modern games have to use underlying software (DirectX, OpenGL, device drivers etc etc) which can introduce bugs as well and interact in different ways on different machines. This is all before we get on to the near infinite different PC specs there are out there. Also the different combinations of things that can be done within the game and bugs that can be created from those internal interactions.

This doesn't mean that bugs are acceptable, nor that a customer service dept not knowing the basic spec for the software is either. But given the shear amount of code, the thousands of ways that code can interact with itself and has to play nice with other peoples code, I am sometimes surprised that any game works at all

[CMDR Abil Midena]

Speaking of Horizons requirements...

Horizons PC requirements

[Walter]

To be fair though modern games are significantly more complex than the games of my youth (circa 85-95). I could imagine the amount of code for the original Super Mario Bros. pales to insignificance to the amount of code needed to run a game like Elite. Also most modern games have to use underlying software (DirectX, OpenGL, device drivers etc etc) which can introduce bugs as well and interact in different ways on different machines. This is all before we get on to the near infinite different PC specs there are out there. Also the different combinations of things that can be done within the game and bugs that can be created from those internal interactions.

This doesn't mean that bugs are acceptable, nor that a customer service dept not knowing the basic spec for the software is either. But given the shear amount of code, the thousands of ways that code can interact with itself and has to play nice with other peoples code, I am sometimes surprised that any game works at all

Couldn't agree more, but the platform specs are a lot tighter than they were thirty years ago (although M$ frequently falls over its own feet) and all the problems you mention are part of the same playing field other producers use. Many of the so-called bugs are down to networking problems and there is a lot of repetition in the bug lists, so yes, not all FD's fault.

When I say FD isn't in control of its own software I'm referring to the numerous little niggling bugs that can't be put down to hardware problems: the BGS; the data mismatch between the Galactic Map and the System Maps (and the HUD displays); the structure of Power Play (so I understand); the BGS; the illogical missions; the BGS; the CQC problems (as I read it); the BGS; the black text on a black background . . .

The BGS still has many little problems that get in the way of total escapsm.

I'm not going to commit to Horizons until things are a lot better in the main game - I don't think I could cope with a whole new set of bugs and disappointments. Perhaps later.

And did I mention the problems with the BGS?